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Listen to the Conservation and Science Podcast

by Simon Mustoe

Why do we feel so hopeless about the future of the natural world? Is nature really collapsing everywhere we look or have we simply been told a one-sided story? And what if our lack of control over ecosystems turns out to be our greatest strength? Listen to the Conservation and Science Podcast with Tommy’s Outdoors.

‘A refreshingly balanced, middle-of-the-road conversation that gives you something rare these days, a genuine sense of agency’ – Tommy Serafinski, Tommy’s Outdoors.

In this episode I welcome back ecologist and author Simon Mustoe to pics up where his previous book left off, building on the idea that we are not separate from nature but central to it.

Simon explains how we sit right in the middle of the trophic pyramid. How we depend entirely on the animals around us to keep energy moving through the systems that sustain life. Simon reframes how we think about our place on this thin, living veneer of the planet.

Watch the interview or listen online by visiting Tommy’s Outdoors here: https://tommysoutdoors.com/2026/06/21/230-lessons-from-nature-with-simon-mustoe/

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